Wednesday, December 7, 2011

Vicious circles.

Sorry, I do have a few things on the back burner... But I'm distracted at the moment so I'm not in front of my PC enough. Doesn't mean I'm not knocking back rumbos and getting my rant on.

I just thought I might post some musings I had concerning some anti-muslim shit my far fetched facebook mates thought was appropriate. Feels to me like a subtle form of hate speech and I just didn't want to let it fester. Fuck em, they don't have to agree with me, but someone should break the cycle of intolerance.

So this is my post, and it's cheating cause it's cut and paste, but feel free to comment or review. You can hate it, or repost it or print it out in wingdings and burn it. It's your life and you only get one crack at it..


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Watch this video about the shocking similarites between Muslim and Nazi beliefs. Listen to a former Palestinian terrorist. What is being taught to Muslim chi...
    • Morgan Parkinson 
      I haven't watched this video, but be careful not to broadly generalize yourself. There are courts in Kuala Lumpur who recently used the internationally recognized Nuremburg principles to successfully prosecute war crimes (as the Americans did against the Nazis), that the American government simply shrugged off. In their absence George Bush and Tony Blair were found guilty of war crimes.

      There is more than enough war and violent crimes against humanity already, whether it's legitimate or not depends on whose laws you subscribe to. There is a more common law of nature which teaches that, instead of hatred, we should foster understanding. Instead of division, we should focus on compassion and instead of perpetuating violence, we could attempt co-operation as fellow humans.

      Since there literally are Australian troops abroad, training guns at foreigners (including muslims) right now, in your name, make sure you are capable of deciding for yourself if we are doing the right thing ourselves. As I said, I don't know what the video is, but I have no interest in watching anything that inspires hatred and division, which probably utilizes carefully selected footage to perpetuate a world of war and terror of which I feel no connection.

      It disgusts me that westerners have subtly been ingrained with a racial superiority, which makes it impossible to understand why there is literally an entire world of people who are fed up with our arrogance. We pollute the planet, we are out there killing people with technologically superior weapons and we will be in relatively air conditioned comfort eating caviar until the world breathes its last gasp. It'd be nice if occasionally someone showed some humility..

    • *********** Morgan soumds like a liberal fool

    • ************* Hey *******l. This is total B&^*Shit!! Don't believe the hype.
    • ************* Skillful editing can make any story you want...
    • ********* 
      I know what you mean ********, but i don't underestimate what fundermentel Religion can do, Look what is happening all over the islamic world,Its a little to cute to blame it solely on the west. what is your idea of an infidel,? Seems to me theres a lot of people in the west with there head in the sand, and if none of this is true, why do we seem to get such a response about it. and if none of this is  true, then we have nothing to worry about, ay.?
    • Morgs, havent watched this vid,? man you wrote plenty, You very articulate bro,I reckon you would rather live with us disgusting superior arrogant western types though,not you ofcouse, but judging from where you live,you should feel pretty comfortable.

    • Morgan Parkinson I have no problems with my own lifestyle. I am free to eat, take shelter, work and vote. I am very happy. I try to give to charity where I see fit and I try to educate myself better and avoid resorting to self-righteousness. I understand what you are hinting at, that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous. But there may well be many good things about Islamic life that you will never know, because the kinds of emails, links and shares you receive are from people who would rather criticize and smear other cultures than understand them.

      I think there would be a lot of parallels between Islam and Western culture, that we would both see the value of human life and look towards moral and ethical pursuits. I have heard the Quran is actually a very beautiful book and that the fundamentalists read far beyond its words to give creedance to their minority belief systems, much the same as Christians have always refuted scientific discoveries that don't align with their mythological beliefs.

      The major disparity arises when westerners fail to realize the influence that our way of life has on countries outside our own. We don't have bombs dropping here, we don't have fundamental factions armed to the teeth who turn our neighborhoods into warzones, we have food on the table and for the most part feel safe in our streets. Yet we harbor a deep seeded widespread cultural apathy and choose to ignore that fact that we are a cog in the wheel of the global problem. Our schools don't meaningfully teach second languages, learning about other cultures is more of a peculiarity and our privilege to learn about other cultures through travel is far too often left unpursued.

      The US and Australia take credit as the biggest polluters per capita worldwide, together we have installed countless puppet dictatorships and kept them in power with our money, weapons and increasingly cyber technology which has facilitated large scale human rights abuses. After decades of maltreatment I can see how other cultures may see westerners as an evil influence, seeing as how it's our bombs killing their families, our money feeding their corrupt governments and our technologies rooting out champions of human rights and seeing them imprisoned, tortured and killed. This is without mention that it our business practices that have decimated the environment and the global economy, the effects of which we are comfortably insultated from.

      Fundamentalism is wrong, but we should understand that it is a reaction. A desperate reaction to an unfair world by others who may never be fortunate enough to share our freedoms. They're starving, they're being killed by the hundreds of thousands and they don't have a fucking shining light at the end of the tunnel. If that shit was happening here it would be the end of the world, but their blood is cheap to us. That is why I refuse to watch a video which is hand picked to perpetuate a climate of indifference towards our fellow man, which capitalizes on the most basic human emotions. Anyone can be conditioned to hate. It will be the links of those among us who seek to teach and bridge the cultural gap, who inspire peace and understanding, that I choose to spend my time on.

      I'm sorry to take the ball and run with it, but I just cannot stand that people are brainwashed to rationalize our aggressive military behaviour overseas. Can't we just stop dropping bombs on each other?

4 comments:

Morgz said...

My mate had a good link that at first glance links some of these points (also it's by my boy Noam!)

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199112--02.htm

Morgz said...

And just to finish off that conversation (as I'm sure my reply gave my mate a migraine:)

******* - Don't be sorry bro, you are passonate, something i admire very much, Its really not that easy,just stopping war, its always going to be in this world, there is always conflict, just between every day,normal situations, let alone the religious fanatics, I do disagree on your thinking about the desperate reaction to an unfair world bit, there are a large population in the world called Budists, they arnt well off and thay dont blow each other up.

Morgan Parkinson - Correct.. I am a firm believer of buddhist philosophies. Gandhi, Martin Luther and Thoreau all endorse non-violent civil disobedience, which is for the most part what we are seeing in America for the Occupy protests. The problem is that we are lucky enough to be non violent. It's a different story when people are raping your wives, killing your children and leaving your country with your friends fingers as trophies. It doesn't make the news, doesn't mean it's not happening. If you want to make a judgement one way or the other you need to find some meaningful information to support your ideals.

I'd be happy if people just stopped taking things at face value, don't believe the hype and show a little compassion where possible, we have it really good here, let's share the love?

Morgz said...

******* Morgan - ever hear of the bloods the crips how about the la kings or vatos locos and trust me ive been in gun fights with some of these gangs here in phoenix . I sure youve hears of the hells angles and other bikes gangs now hear say says ha is into arms disdribution big fuckimg gun dude , bombs shit like that . Open yours eyes morgan there is plenty of shit armed to the teeth in america hell my friends have more guns then most alkida probley do . Im just saying it is more about a state of mind not what you have ... Corner an animal it will try to kill you .

******* I agree were do have it good here . And I do beleave in the peacefulness of budist and hindu religion hell im covered in tattoos tht represents that buda even clamed jesus as the loard and savior though and not to make a religion of his teachings . There are also facts the science won't except about religion and to be honest most christians don't even realise they are still pegans with there tree and estar worship at sunrise service it talks about this in the bible the jews are gods people for one reson the celibrate god as he said to in laviticus ; the 7am feasts of god.

******** Haven't watched video yet but poor ole Morgan is fairly steamed up over events of the world. He has some good points and I could go on but won't. But I recognise that Aus. and nz -- and Britain -- are filling up with Muslim mosques !! Our western democracy and our beliefs have stood by and allowed this. I am reminded of the song by Bette Middler - "From a Distance". Find this somewhere and have a listen. I have the lyrics from the computer. The music will be there too.

Morgz said...

Morgan Parkinson ***** - Al Qaeda is actually a remnant of the CIA's war against Russia. That's not a conspiracy theory, that is fact. They were trained to fight the Russians. They are not necessarily well armed, but they have been professionally trained to fight independent, covert and asymmetric wars (which is where one side doesn't really know who the enemy is). Al Qaeda are really at best a nuisance, but at worst they represent a reason for people to allow the government to strip them of their civil rights in exchange for security.

This is why the US senate recently declared the US a battleground, so when they see fit they can detain ANYONE indefinately without legal process. This is not about fighting Al Qaeda, this will be used against you too if you stick your neck out. Watch some footage of an Occupy raid.

This is the worst, most unconstitutional erosion of human rights imaginable and the average Joe blow cops it on the chin because regardless of how much heat they're packing, they're shit scared of protecting themselves without the FBI, CIA, ATF, DHS and the countless others who do the real legwork. Right to bear arms? Try taking nail clippers on an airliner..

Armed to the teeth is just a warm, fuzzy feeling for the average American. Realistically you're not even playing the same game. It may give some people a hard on to go and buy weapons at their local dispensaries and to hang out with a rough crowd.. But really? I mean last financial year the Pentagon donated $500,000,000 worth of weapons to local law enforcement.. $500M of hand-me-downs.These guys are strategic experts with unlimited budgets, no legal constraints, the worlds best intelligence networks at their disposal and technology second to none.

Shit, DARPA have gun sights that can follow your heartbeat from behind an 8 inch concrete wall and the next gen sights will follow individuals in a group, behind a concrete wall. If they wanted, they can shoot you down with a hellfire missile from a predator drone and you will never see it coming. Armed to the teeth is a consolation prize when you go up against the money the US has invested. It's your money too so I hope you feel it's being well spent.

I'm not promoting conspiracy theories, I'm just disappointed that people fall for the rhetoric.. Believing propaganda which promotes an unaccountable elite, who are above the law and can press forward with their own agenda global domination. Have you ever stepped inside a mosque or tried to talk to a devout muslim? Who you even try to understand what a normal everyday person like yourself, who happens to have a muslim faith instead of a christian one, sees the world? That's my point. No more shoot first ask questions later, if there really is a problem, define it, promote a solution and then pursue it.

Thanks for listening, hope it made a lil sense..


****** That makes sence . And no ive never even met a muslim so I cant say ive tryed to understand them. As for the occupy people they are doing things wrong the only way to beat the rich who they are made at is not doing a 1960's sit in at a park but to beat them at there own game . As for this country Obama has sold us down the river and turned are dollar to shit as of 2 weeks ago I thinks it was China is worth more thanks us and if the plans that have be set forth to distroy the US fallow through we will be in a 3rd world living situation soon say 5 years . Though my nabor says this is all Gods plan and things have already begun to happen to commence the return of the lord and with in 5 years the world will feel the rapture and none of anything will matter except for how youve lived and celibrated Yaway. Shalom.